Monday, September 1, 2014

How to buy bootleg/fake Lego

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This is my website to inform you that there are other brick brands other than Lego.  Some will be Lego knock-offs and others will be unique originally designed building block sets.

I buy my bootleg  mini-figures and block sets from only two online shopping platforms:  Ebay and Aliexpress.   Each site has it's pros and cons.

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Mini-figures


Mini-figures can be bought individually, or in sets of 4, 6 or 8.  I buy big figs individually.  The best quality bootleg mini-figures are made by Sheng Yuan, Decool, Lele, Bozhi, Pogo and Xinh.  There are other Chinese brands but their quality is questionable.

Sheng Yuan sets, in general, are mostly eight figure sets, whereas Decool minifig sets have six figures in them, but sometimes there are more or less.  I tend to focus mostly on the Marvel and DC Superhero mini-figures, but I have bought clones of the Lego mini-figure series, Clash of Clans and Ghostbuster figures too.


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Building block sets


Building block sets can be bootlegs of older and newer Lego sets, or unique designs by Chinese brands such as Sluban, Enlighten, Ausini and Bozhi.    Examples of Lego sets can be older city vehicles or more recently, modular buildings from the Friends series, Superheroes vehicles and probably the most popular theme, Star Wars.

Sluban makes a few airplane and city vehicle sets.  Enlighten sets clones some of the older Lego sets like submarines and trains.  Ausini makes their own train series that Lego has not produced.

The latest block company to enter the foray was Lepin.  They successfully cloned all of the Lego modular buildings and several of the large Star Wars sets.
They were shutdown in 2019 when the Chinese authorities clamped down, but since then there have been a number of newer brick brands to hit the scene, namely Sembo, King and Mould King.

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Where to buy - Ebay

You can usually find mini figures and block sets under the Toys and Hobbies category.  Most times they are in the Building Blocks subcategory but you can also find them in the Action Figures subcategory.

Items are listed in auction format or Buy it Now.  I look for items that come with Free Shipping where the sellers are from China.  Sometimes you can find some really good deals with Buy It Now, but the best prices come from winning an auction and paying a lot less.

For Ebay, you'll need a Paypal account to provide the most painless payment method.

I have found that sellers typically ship out the items within one or two days of payment and it takes on average three weeks to one month before I get it.

Items will come with a tracking number (see below for more about tracking) and an estimated delivery date.  If the item doesn't arrive within the specified period, you can get a refund from ebay.

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Where to buy - Aliexpress


I've been using Aliexpress since early 2014.  Aliexpress is like an online mall where many sellers have virtual storefronts.  You are basically dealing with a seller and not Aliexpress directly, although they will try to mediate disputes.  There's no auction style listings, only fixed price listings.    Some listings will state a minimum quantity that needs to be purchased, because they might sell both retail and wholesale.

Some items will be shipped for free and others will charge for extra shipping.  I don't know why but it takes up to one week for a seller to ship an item, and then it takes over one month for it to arrive.  if it takes longer than one month, raise a dispute with Aliexpress.

It's somewhat intimidating for new users because of the plethora of products available.  There's a learning curve to figure out how to filter out the items you are looking for.  Start by browsing the Toys / Blocks category and use the search filters to find things you are looking for.

Be warned that seller ratings and feedback are irrelevant. Do not trust any of the feedback or reviews because they may be bogus.  Even  sellers with great ratings will still try to scam you.  You have to understand that it's buyer beware and ethical behaviour is not always followed on Aliexpress.

You may discover some amazing deals, but even though they are listed, the seller might not actually have any stock.  I have bought items only to find out that the seller lied about having inventory. Sometimes they will give you a fake tracking number and indicated that they shipped it when in fact they didn't.

There is no requirement for a seller to honour an item's price.  They might decide not to sell you the item because they realized they priced it too low.   Sometimes they try to ask you for more money after you have bought.  If that happens raise a dispute right away.  I tried to file an Aliexpress complaint against the seller, but there are limited complaint categories and if it isn't listed, they will not listen to your complaint.  Seller asking for more money after an item purchase is not considered as fraudulent by Aliexpress.

Your only recourse is to get a refund but you will have to raise a dispute and wait sometimes up to one month to get your money back.

Paypal is not an option for Aliexpress users.  I have purchase protection on my Visa card so I use this as my payment option.

If you want to see some of the fake Lego set deals I have found, please visit my other blog altbrickdeals.blogspot.com.  I update my site whenever there are new building block sets that look interesting on Aliexpress.

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Package Tracking


Most items come with a tracking number but there are two types, one for small packages and one for larger packages.

Small packages are usually sets of mini-figures or items under ten dollars.  The tracking numbers associated with these items consist of ten numeric digits.

I use this website to track packages originating from China.
https://www.17track.net/en

Larger packages come with a different format tracking number, ie: RI586779712CN.  
The first letter will always be R and the last two letters will be CN, sometimes SG or HK. The last number is a check digit to verify the other numbers in the tracking number.

Hope this information has been useful to you.  As always, thanks for visiting Its Not Lego and See you next time!

12 comments:

  1. thanks, the links you gave is quite useful.

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  2. Have you bought from the Seller on Ali YOU SEE FUNNY? I am gonna make a train track bulk purchase

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  3. This was helpful info. I'm glad I read this before deciding to make a purchase from Aliexpress.

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  4. Thank you for the info. Can you recommand some of your sellers from Ali?...I would like to buy some train sets and I have heard of a lot of scams from Ali.

    Thank`s

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  5. I was looking for some basic bricks in bulk quantity. Is there any brand out there that sells them on the cheap?

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  6. HOW DO I GET POWER RANGERS BOOTLEG FIGS?����

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    1. Searching for power rangers will yield nothing on Aliexpress but if you search for Kamen Riders in the Aliexpress Toy section, you might find what you are looking for.

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  7. How about a Pogo brand Minifigures? Have you see or buy it? 😁

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    1. from i see from youtube, pogo has lower quality than shengyuan or decool. but it's a subjective opinion.
      i have good experience with lepin, shengyuan and decool, but not with lele & xinh. don't know about bozhi & bela & pogo.

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  8. Хуй сасите! Китайское лего лучшее, что придумало человечество!

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  9. I am in the USA and have purchased the Koruit Minifigs on AliExpress.
    Are there other sites that sell other other "Original" custom minifigs. I am not looking for knock off that looks exactly like the Lego minifigs but "Custom" medieval minifigs, Helmets and armor like the Asgard or game of thrones figures, armor and shields made by Koruit.

    Basically, Is there a competitor for Koruit and where can I buy it? Thanks

    I have found Bonanza but am looking for another site to get more variety in the Medeival knights.

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  10. Hi, I stumbled upon your blog here and it has been very informative. Thank you for taking your time and going through the details. This article here was written awhile back and I'm wondering if anything has changed in terms of purchasing sets on Aliexpress. Are there any tips you would give now to someone that is looking to purchase their first off brand set? I generally like going for the nostalgia or movie sets like, Bowser, Home Alone House, Ghostbusters Ecto-1, Lighthouse. Your suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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